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Paper Mario: TTYD - Fish Glitch - Chapters 5 and 6 Early
January 22, 2013
UPDATE: It's officially called fish glitch now, lol
This is a glitch that allows you to access the shortcut pipes for chapters 5 and 6 right after chapter 4. It also allows you to freeze and walk though NPCs and enemies, however it requires Ms. Mowz and a body of water.
All you do is press X to use Mowz's ability at the same time (actually a couple frames before) you fall into water, then cancel her text after Mario shoots into the air. This will allow you to regain control of Mario in the air so you can land higher up. This also locks the camera in place, until you enter a new area, mount Yoshi, or fall in water again.
You cannot use Goombella's text to do the glitch because it doesn't give you control of Mario unfortunately.
Going to Keelhaul via the pipe will bring you to a deserted island without any of the NPCs that are required to progress the game.
Going to Poshley before normal will show you all the NPCs as if you just got off the train there for the first time. Going into the train actually puts you back into Chapter 6, but skips the Sticky Yummy Threat cutscene from when you first enter from Rogueport (as well as the train ticket quest). Playing through Chapter 6 normally from this point has no special side effects from what I can tell, although activating events out of sequence actually completes some things for you.
For example, completing the train ride makes the game consider Chapter 5 (and every major event that you would normally have completed up until that point) all the way complete, and even puts Cortez and his ship at the dock to take you back. It doesn't give you the Sapphire Star though, and the pedestal in front of TTYD will not work properly without a new star in your inventory. Also you will be locked out of getting Bobbery if you haven't gotten him already. Interestingly, getting the paper boat curse reverts the game back to where it's supposed to be at that point. You can glitch it again, however.
Reading the note in front of the sanctum in Poshley and talking to the penguin also activates previous events, including Chapter 5 and the train quest. This locks you from getting the Ultra Boots at Riverside Station because the game thinks you already completed the train quest, and you can't ride the train again because the game thinks you completed the train ticket quest as well.
If you get the Garnet Star before the Sapphire Star, your inventory will say you got the Sapphire Star and not the Garnet Star, however it will give you the Showstopper move, and standing on the pedestal in front of TTYD will activate the post-Chapter 6 cutscene. It will lock you out of Sweet Feast, unfortunately.
It's worth noting that although activating a post-Chapter 5 event will "complete" Chapter 5 for you, there are still some glitchy side effects, such as not being able to talk to a few of the NPCs on Keelhaul, and still being able to activate a cutscene when you come from the coconut-bridge map and go to the left. Also switches in the grotto have not been activated, but some doors have been opened.
In other words, there are three relevant events that can change the game's state to the point it's supposed to be at normally:
-Getting the Paper Boat curse
-Starting the first train ride
-Unlocking Poshley Sanctum
Certain events don't change the state, because you can choose (to an extent) when to get them. For example, getting the Ultra Hammer does not change the game's state and is not affected by sequence breaking.
Since you need Bobbery and Ultra Boots to beat the game, I think the optimal route would be to:
-Get Ms. Mowz after Chapter 4
-Open both shortcut pipes in the sewers
-Play normally until you get Bobbery
-Take the pipe back to the sewers
-Enter the pipe to Poshley Heights
-Enter the train
-Complete the train ride but do NOT unlock the sanctum yet
(UPDATE: You can unlock it at this point, but it's pointless and slower)
-Get the Paper Boat curse from the grotto
-Open the sanctum and finish chapter 6
-Carry on like normal
(This route has now been tested up until the final boss (my savestate glitched out here before I could finish the battle). I doubt there will be any barrier in the final fight from glitching the game before).
-The statue puzzle to enter the grotto
-The second half of the grotto
-A Peach/Bowser segment
-A trip to TTYD w/cutscene
-The train ticket quest
-The beginning cutscene of Chapter 6.
-Requires Ms. Mowz
-Frame perfect glitching
-Some extra traveling
-Lower stats because of skips
-Skips Sweet Feast
-Glitchy SP bar
-Inventory shows wrong stats for Crystal Stars and Special moves obtained (not really a "downside")
Even if sequence breaking ends up leading to a dead end or something, this is still fascinating IMO.
UPDATE: Fixed the route. It was my brother's idea.
Oh yeah, and talking to the penguin in front of Poshley Sanctum with the Mowz glitch active will freeze him in place, softlocking the game.